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2023 Meeting Agenda


Friday, April 14, 2023

6:00 — 7:00 PM (ET)

Welcome Reception Hosted by the House of Delegates


Kick off the 2023 Pathologists Leadership Summit with our in-person Welcome Reception. Greet familiar colleagues and connect with new ones as you build a network that will last through your career. 

Saturday, April 15, 2023 – House of Delegates Meeting

8:00 — 8:55 AM (ET)

Networking Breakfast


9:00 — 9:05 AM (ET)

Welcome from the Virginia Delegation Chair

Elizabeth T. Martin, MD, FCAP

9:05 — 9:15 AM (ET)

Welcome and Opening Remarks

Sang Wu, MD, FCAP, Speaker, House of Delegates

9:15 — 10:25 AM (ET)

Payment Cuts: Conquering the Challenge

Moderator: William H. Yong, MD, FCAP

Guillermo G. Martinez-Torres, MD, FCAP
Eric Y. Loo, MD, FCAP
Kisha A Mitchell Richards, MD, FCAP
Mick Raich, Principal of Mick Raich LLC

Pathology is a vital component of the health care process. As such, we hold that pathologists should be paid fairly, consistently, and efficiently, regardless of where they practice. Join our diverse panel of economic affairs experts as they share their insights and ideas in this interactive session, with ample time to hear from you!

10:35 — 11:10 AM (ET)

Advocacy Update with Q&A

Moderator: Jonathan L. Myles, MD, FCAP, Chair, Council on Government and Professional Affairs

What can we expect this Congressional season? What are the CAP’s advocacy priorities? Join us for an update on the latest legislative and regulatory policies, including late-breaking topics, from the Council on Government and Professional Affairs. 

11:10 — 11:50 AM (ET)

CAP Candidate Forum – Board of Governors

Moderator: Marilyn, M. Bui, MD, PhD, FCAP

Diana M. Cardona, MD, FCAP
Kalisha A. Hill, MD, MBA, FCAP
Bradley S. Karon, MD, PhD, FCAP
Erlo Roth, MD, FCAP
A. Joe Saad, MD, FCAP

Get to know the candidates running for the CAP Board of Governors. It’s every member’s opportunity to ask questions and learn more so that we cast informed votes for CAP leadership.

Noon — 1:00 PM (ET)

Strengthening the Health Care Workforce and Pathways to Medicine: What Pathology Can Learn From Other Specialties Sponsored by PathPAC

Kalisha A. Hill, MD, MBA, FCAP

Helen Burstin, MD, MPH, MACP

This session will focus on the challenges and opportunities faced by pathology and specialty care clinicians in addressing ongoing workforce issues. Hear firsthand what CMSS and its member societies, representing 800,000 US physicians, are undertaking to shape and impact health workforce policy discussions. CMSS member societies are leading efforts to enhance the quality of care delivered in the US healthcare system and to improve public health. The objective of this session is to address the question of what future iterations of the healthcare workforce should look like, focusing on concepts and practices that can be applied to pathology and laboratory medicine.

1:10 — 1:45 PM (ET)

CAP Candidate Forum – President Elect

Moderator: Sang Wu, MD, FCAP

Jonathan L. Myles, MD, FCAP
Qihui Jim Zhai, MD, FCAP

Meet the members running this summer to serve as the CAP’s next President-elect. The candidates will take your questions directly in this moderated yet open format.

1:45 — 1:50 PM (ET)

Introduction to Roundtable Session

Moderator: Adam L. Booth, MD, FCAP

1:50 — 3:00 PM (ET)

Pathology “Side Gigs”: Making the Most of Your Pathology Expertise

Alfred Lui, MD, FCAP
Vaishali M. Pansare, MD, FCAP
Timothy C. Allen, MD, JD, FCAP
Hope Richard, MD, FCAP
Thomas J. Cooper Jr., MD, FCAP
Michael C. Dugan, MD, FCAP
Wayne Garrett, MD, FCAP
Manimala Roy, MD, FCAP
Savitri Krishnamurthy, MD, FCAP
Stephen G. Ruby, MD, MBA, FCAP
David L. Gang, MD, FCAP
Anthony M. Magliocco, MD, FCAP

What’s the best way to supplement your earnings through “side gigs”? Join our subject matter experts both in person and virtually in small group roundtable talks where you can share your experiences and learn from others as you find out more about six select opportunities:

  • Ad Hoc CLIA Lab Director
  • Expert Witness
  • Industry Consultation
  • Locum Tenens
  • Faculty/Invited Speakerships
  • Patents & Inventions

3:15 — 3:50 PM (ET)

Delegate Town Hall

Moderator: Sang Wu, MD, FCAP

CAP Officers & CEO:
Emily E. Volk, MD, FCAP, President
Donald S. Karcher, MD, FCAP, President-elect
Alfred Wray Campbell, MD, MBA, FCAP, Secretary-Treasurer
Stephen Myers, Chief Executive Officer

Take advantage of this “open mic” time to share relevant and timely pathology-related topics of discussion that may emerge as important priorities in your state and region. Activating the House to address member needs starts here.

3:50 — 4:00 PM (ET)

Closing Remarks

Sang Wu, MD, FCAP

4:15 — 5:45 PM (ET)

Reception—Constitution Foyer


Connect with like-minded colleagues and keep the conversations going! Join us in person for our evening reception to extend pathology’s influence and impact throughout the full Pathologists Leadership Summit.

Sunday, April 16, 2023 – Leadership & Communications

8:00 — 8:55 AM (ET)

Demystifying Hill Day – Breakfast Course


Michael Giuliani, Senior Director, Legislation and Political
Lauren DePutter Director, Political Programs

CAP members participating in Hill Day: Whether this is your first time or you just need a refresher, we want to ensure that you’re comfortable with the experience, you have the information you need, and your questions are answered.

9:00 — 9:05 AM (ET)

Welcome and Opening Remarks

Emily E. Volk, MD, FCAP, CAP President

9:05 — 9:50 AM (ET)

AI and Readiness: Present and Future Implications for AI Growth on the Field of Pathology

Peter McCaffery, MD
M.E. (Doc) de Baca, MD, FCAP


This course will cover the impact of AI on the practice of pathology, including—as a central feature—the results of a recent survey distributed by the CAP to better understand readiness, knowledge, and sentiment of pathologists toward the use and governance of AI. Join us as we discuss where the survey indicates we are as a field and what new challenges and responsibilities AI will introduce.

9:50 — 10:50 AM (ET)

Stop the Spread: Exercising Citizenship and Embracing Discomfort to Cure a Toxic Group

Karim E. Sirgi, MD, MBA, FCAP
Jeff Christinson, CEO

Every practice has an implicit or explicit set of citizenship criteria that are critical to that practice’s success and internal harmony. This session’s speakers will share the best citizenship practices, observed during decades of leadership in various settings, through the dual lenses of practice management and medical practice leadership.

11:00 — Noon (ET)

Finding Your Place in Organized Medicine

Matthew Foster, MD, MMM, FCAP

Susan Strate, MD, FCAP
Tiffani Milless, MD, FCAP
Chakshu Gupta, MD, FCAP


The AMA, the CAP, state pathology societies, and state medical societies promote pathologists’ interests and well-being. These associations work within many interprofessional domains to protect the medical practice and advocate for physicians. Along with pathologists’ interests, many professional organizations advocate for pathologists’ patients by taking a vested interest in socioeconomic factors that affect patient care. Learn how your state pathology society’s relationship within this ecosystem is critical to your bottom line.

12:05 — 1:05 PM (ET)

Communicating for Success

Introduction: Emily E. Volk, MD, FCAP

Speaker: Ashley Etienne, Powerhouse Political Communications Strategist; Advisor to Multiple US Presidents and Elected Officials

Ms. Etienne’s presentation will focus on being an effective communicator, with an emphasis on engaging with members of Congress. She will walk attendees through what to know about communicating with Congressional members and the importance of “storytelling” and localizing your interactions. Ms. Etienne will also provide examples of how to take a policy issue and package it for consumption for policymakers who may or may not be aware of it. As a bonus, she will use the CAP’s “Hill Ask” as the backdrop for examples and scenarios.

1:10 — 2:10 PM (ET)

Multimedia Communication for Pathologists: Tools and Tips

Xiaoyin “Sara” Jiang, MD, FCAP
Evelyn L. Lockhart MD, MscBMC, FCAP

Pathologists need strong communication skills to take care of patients, to teach, and to advocate. We know that a picture really IS worth a thousand words—but verbal, auditory, and social communication are also key to getting our message across. We will discuss how pathologists can best use visuals as well as other media to communicate effectively with learners, patients, and peers. We will provide practical tips on creating and working with images—from the basics of image file formats, to designing images for audience insight, to sharing visual and auditory content. This lecture will highlight concepts in multimedia communication for pathologists and pathologists-in-training that will be applicable in any practice setting.

2:10 — 3:10 PM (ET)

Doing More With Less  Human Factors Engineering in Pathology

Moira P. Larsen, MD, MBA, FCAP
Ethan P. Larsen, PhD


Human factors engineering has become more prominent in medicine and hospital practice, with some organizations hiring HF engineers to assist in Quality and Process Improvement departments. There is wider recognition that valuable process improvement tools exist beyond LEAN and Six Sigma. This session’s speakers will present human factors as one of those alternative frameworks and provide real-world examples of its use in the laboratory, and will invite active participation from the audience to illustrate applications and brainstorm solutions using a human factors framework. Participants will broaden their understanding of process improvement and be enabled to do more with less.

3:20 — 4:20 PM (ET)

Pathologists’ Burnout: Our Stories, Our Solutions

Marisa C. Saint Martin, MD, ACC, FCAP
Michael B. Cohen, MD, FCAP

Balancing the rigors of a tough work schedule, other aspects of a career, family obligations, and life events can be challenging. Depleted internal resources can have both short and long-term effects on both individual pathologists and on their teams’ efficiency and performance. On the flip side, wellness and resiliency can be taught and incorporated into everyday activities. This session analyzes pathologists’ burnout data and focuses on introducing strategies that can be implemented to fight off burnout and its sequelae, promoting engagement and finding a sense of joy and appreciation at work.

4:20 — 4:30 PM (ET)

Closing Remarks

Emily E. Volk, MD, FCAP

4:45 — 6:00 PM (ET)

Evening Reception – Constitution Foyer


Monday, April 17, 2023 – Advocacy Awareness

8:00 — 9:00 AM (ET)

Networking Breakfast


9:00 — 9:15 AM (ET)


Emily E. Volk, MD, FCAP, CAP President

9:15 — 10:45 AM (ET)

The CAP’s Policy and Advocacy Agenda

Speaker: Jonathan L. Myles, MD, FCAP

Moderator: Joe Saad, MD, FCAP

Diana M. Cardona, MD, FCAP
Ronald W. McLawhon, MD, PhD, FCAP
Matthew R. Foster, MD, MMM, FCAP

The CAP has a broad advocacy agenda. Join the conversation to discover how we actively engage in the legislative and regulatory arenas on the critical issues facing pathology and laboratory medicine. The CAP’s advocacy leaders will review the challenges and opportunities being addressed by the council and its committees. There will also be time reserved for attendees to ask questions and discuss these important issues.

11:00 — Noon (ET)

The Impact of Payment Policy on Pathology

Speaker: Jonathan L. Myles, MD, FCAP

Moderator: Joe Saad, MD, FCAP

Diana M. Cardona, MD, FCAP
Ronald W. McLawhon, MD, PhD, FCAP
Matthew R. Foster, MD, MMM, FCAP

Pathologists face payment challenges from both public and private insurance payers. Join us as we focus on the public payment issues causing Medicare cuts to our specialty, and how the CAP is fighting for fair pay for the value you provide.

Noon — 1:00 PM (ET)

Hear it First: Political Issues of the Day

Mike Allen, Co-Founder and Executive Editor of Axios, Former POLITICO Chief White House Correspondent

Jim VandeHei, Co-Founder and CEO of Axios, Co-Founder and Former CEO of POLITICO

Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen will share fascinating, non-partisan, behind-the-scenes analysis of what’s going on in Washington. The Duo will evaluate the current political landscape and expound on what issues will confront both parties. They will also discuss the impact the current Administration has had on the business community, and how will it continue to influence markets and organizations.

1:10 — 2:00 PM (ET)

The CAP’s Hill Day Ask – Mitigate the Impact of the Evaluation and Management Changes on Pathology

Speaker: Darren Fenwick

Moderator: Joe Saad, MD, FCAP

Jonathan L. Myles, MD, FCAP
Matthew R. Foster, MD, MMM, FCAP
Mary D. Le, MD, FCAP

Read these briefs to learn about the issues we are discussing on the Hill

Participants will be briefed on the CAP’s legislative “ask” for congressional Hill Day visits. The goal is to encourage your members of Congress to support the CAP’s position to mitigate the impact of the evaluation and management changes on payment to pathologists. By attending this session, CAP members will gain a deeper understanding of this vital legislative issue as well as its impact on pathology.

2:00 — 2:30 PM (ET)

Hill Day Logistics

Mary D. Le, MD, FCAP
An essential prep session for anyone planning to participate in the Hill Day Visits. A representative from Advocacy Associates, the CAP’s meeting scheduling firm, will walk participants through the features of the mobile tool and demonstrate how to access Hill Day schedules as well as other logistical details.

2:45 — 3:45 PM (ET)

Hill Day Practice with Your Colleagues

Matthew R. Foster, MD, MMM, FCAP
Many of you will be attending Hill Day meetings with your colleagues. This session allows you to connect with others from your state and take assignments in preparation for your meetings. You should decide who will handle the introductions, the legislative ask, the questions, and follow-up communication, as well as who will close the meeting.

3:45 — 4:00 PM (ET)

Closing Remarks

Matthew R. Foster, MD, MMM, FCAP

4:15 — 5:30 PM (ET)

Reception – Grand Foyer


Tuesday, April 18, 2023 – Hill Day

7:00 — 8:00 AM (ET)

Networking Breakfast


9:00 AM — 4:00 PM (ET)

Hill Day Visits